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Re:Does Caernarfon have the right kinds of shops to bring in the shoppers?
(Date Posted:11/03/2009 13:18 PM)
Argos sells most of the items you mention and give excellent service and value for money. As for the shops we have I think you would have trouble finding the friendly helpful service anywhere else. Small shops run by the owners are hard to beat . There are a few gaps that need filling so what about venturing into the business world? We should all support our local shops-in that way the money is circulated locally and not sent over the border .Yes I know Argos is not local but surely Euronics left because locals did not support it? What about Cadwaladers who succeed everywhere else. Is there something wrong with us ? Remember the saying "If you don't use it you lose it".
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RE:Does Caernarfon have the right kinds of shops to bring in the shoppers?
(Date Posted:11/03/2009 22:32 PM)
Argos is certainly a start but it isn't a real shop, that is, the customers browse through a catalogue and then pick their items. and guess what, you would be very lucky to find a tv or camera at the Caernarfon store, they would send you to Bangor.
Your argument is sad, you know only too well that what we have is rubbish. People don't give a fig about small shops which allegedly give good service (I've not seen this in town). What people want in this economic climate is a good deal and small shops cannot offer this due to not being able to compete with the big boys.
Shoppa Unigriw??? You can keep it, lets get some REAL shops in town.
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Re:Does Caernarfon have the right kinds of shops to bring in the shoppers?
(Date Posted:11/04/2009 13:16 PM)
This last guest appears to have it in for his town and the people who work here.It's sad but thank goodness he is in the minority and that the majority appreciate what we have.As a matter of fact I was in XXX Lewis's the other day-a store which advertises that it is never undersold and guess what....they were selling a branded article for £40 which is sold in town for £30! That was not discounted or on a Sale so if you dare to enter our small and exclusive shops you might be pleasantly surprised!On second thoughts no you wouldn't as you obviously wouldn't recognise a good thing when you saw it!
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Re:Does Caernarfon have the right kinds of shops to bring in the shoppers?
(Date Posted:11/04/2009 14:43 PM)
yes we have the shops rubbish today was a sad day for caernarfon no tesco no jobs who wants to come to caernarfon i am not to bothered i will still shop in tesco bangor yes does caernarfon have the kind of shops to bring in the shoppers mmm-NO
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RE:Does Caernarfon have the right kinds of shops to bring in the shoppers?
(Date Posted:11/04/2009 23:08 PM)
I agree, no shops means no sales. Bangor for me! Caernarfon deserves what it gets NOTHING!
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Re:Does Caernarfon have the right kinds of shops to bring in the shoppers?
(Date Posted:11/06/2009 16:01 PM)
Caernarfon town means a lot to me, it is a town I love very much, but I do not go there now if I can help it. I do not like to see it as it is now, and I am sure my Nain and all our family long since gone would not like what they could see now either. The shops offer no choice, The Maes is very diificult to walk on, unless you would like to get run over that is. Parking is a joke, and has been made as difficult as possible thanks to Gwynedd. I wanted a Tesco in Cibyn as I am fed up having to drive to Bangor, Tesco in Caernarfon offers such limited choice for me. I go to Cibyn quite often to the refuse place and to the fantatsic Cibyn Vets. People who say Caernarfon is ok want to get out and about a bit more and go and see what other towns offer. They have real shops, a picture house, a theatre ( yes I know we have Galeri ) that puts on producations that people really wont to see. most of them are clean and tidy too. and they are full of people and have a atmosphere that has a buzz to it. Like the Caernarfon I remember, not the shell that remains for us to see today. Sorry but this is how I feel. People who want to shop go to Bangor, Llandudno, Chester or Liverpool. Some also go to Cheshire Oaks, The Trafford Centre or Gemni, in fact anywhere BUT Caernarfon.
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(Date Posted:11/08/2009 11:07 AM)
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Caernarfon town means a lot to me, it is a town I love very much, but I do not go there now if I can help it. I do not like to see it as it is now, and I am sure my Nain and all our family long since gone would not like what they could see now either. The shops offer no choice, The Maes is very diificult to walk on, unless you would like to get run over that is. Parking is a joke, and has been made as difficult as possible thanks to Gwynedd. I wanted a Tesco in Cibyn as I am fed up having to drive to Bangor, Tesco in Caernarfon offers such limited choice for me. I go to Cibyn quite often to the refuse place and to the fantatsic Cibyn Vets. People who say Caernarfon is ok want to get out and about a bit more and go and see what other towns offer. They have real shops, a picture house, a theatre ( yes I know we have Galeri ) that puts on producations that people really wont to see. most of them are clean and tidy too. and they are full of people and have a atmosphere that has a buzz to it. Like the Caernarfon I remember, not the shell that remains for us to see today. Sorry but this is how I feel. People who want to shop go to Bangor, Llandudno, Chester or Liverpool. Some also go to Cheshire Oaks, The Trafford Centre or Gemni, in fact anywhere BUT Caernarfon. I could not have written the last message better myself. I agree entirely with what you have said. Caernarfon is finished and I too loved this once great town, but now I see myself actually wanting to leave (like many others have already done). Caernarfon not only offers nothing for the locals (shopping wise), it also offers nothing for our children and this means they too will leave. If Tesco's doesn't come to town and the exiting store closes then it will mean the end for the town. What's the solution? Well quite simply we need to rid ourselves of these negative shopkeepers who are against everything. Week in week out we read of the same old clan slagging off Tesco's, the Doc and just about everything else we have a chance of getting. They are so narrow minded that they think unique shops are the way forward. What they don't realise is that to attract customers, you need to have something more than "unique" shops. People are looking for bargains and a good deal, this only comes with the bigger shops. Caernarfon is finished and it is down to this little group of losers who constantly are looking after their own little empires and are afraid of any competition. COMPETITION is what makes businesses great. We should not let these morons stop out little town progressing. They will see that with their attitude people will turn their backs on them and then they will have nothing. I for one will not shop in town as long as these morons are trying to rule the roost. It's Bangor shopping for me.
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Re:Does Caernarfon have the right kinds of shops to bring in the shoppers?
(Date Posted:11/09/2009 12:41 PM)
well said true morons rule i agree no morons in Bangor we only want cheep shops 4 us no good morons wantour town heig up 4 losers lik them get rid i say & mak our town gret agen with shops lik tesco & Woolworth & ever cheep shop i say why there morons must hav stop £1 shops 2 in Bangor 0 here i say get rid of fanci shops & fill town with shops we want these morons no nuthing i say.
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Re:Does Caernarfon have the right kinds of shops to bring in the shoppers?
(Date Posted:11/10/2009 05:31 AM)
Judging by the above post, I'd say we need more Schools.
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(Date Posted:11/10/2009 14:22 PM)
Reply to is_Aimoo_Guest (11/06/2009 16:01 PM)
Caernarfon town means a lot to me, it is a town I love very much, but I do not go there now if I can help it. I do not like to see it as it is now, and I am sure my Nain and all our family long since gone would not like what they could see now either. The shops offer no choice, The Maes is very diificult to walk on, unless you would like to get run over that is. Parking is a joke, and has been made as difficult as possible thanks to Gwynedd. I wanted a Tesco in Cibyn as I am fed up having to drive to Bangor, Tesco in Caernarfon offers such limited choice for me. I go to Cibyn quite often to the refuse place and to the fantatsic Cibyn Vets. People who say Caernarfon is ok want to get out and about a bit more and go and see what other towns offer. They have real shops, a picture house, a theatre ( yes I know we have Galeri ) that puts on producations that people really wont to see. most of them are clean and tidy too. and they are full of people and have a atmosphere that has a buzz to it. Like the Caernarfon I remember, not the shell that remains for us to see today. Sorry but this is how I feel. People who want to shop go to Bangor, Llandudno, Chester or Liverpool. Some also go to Cheshire Oaks, The Trafford Centre or Gemni, in fact anywhere BUT Caernarfon. I wrote the above comment. Today I went into Caernarfon for the first time in ages. After I had been to the appointement I had to attend I went for a coffee. I went to a cafe on the Maes, I should have been able to enjoy the view of the Castle, the new Square etc. But what did I get? In the short time I was there three vans came to make del to different shops on the square. At one point a transit van from the Welsh Air Ambulance came (great cause donot get me wrong ,support it myself.) and parked outside the estate agents next to Silver Star. The back is opened up and a dinning table and chairs are unloaded, and left on the square for a little while, while the driver makes a telephone call. The van is then left on the square for quite some time. If it was not there I may have been able to see the row of taxis park outside the spar, all the other cars and vans parked here and there on the square, and lots of other cars and vans just driving through the square in no part direction!! When I first arrived and parked my car in the multi-st car park I saw TWO Gwynedd Council traffic wardens closely examing the car that I had parked next to, because they told me the tax disc had ran out on the 10 of September. They where still there on the same floor of the car park when I returned to my car almost an hour later. What a good job they are doing! Oh and the town was empty, the people who where there looked down in the dumps and the town looked dirty and drap to me, It all did not put me in the mood for walking round the shops (what shops) and parting with my money.
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Re:Does Caernarfon have the right kinds of shops to bring in the shoppers?
(Date Posted:11/10/2009 15:13 PM)
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Judging by the above post, I'd say we need more Schools.
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Ha Ha indeed we do it seems, but hey we are having a new one at Hendre. Which is more than what we can say about our shopping center (or lack of it)
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RE:Does Caernarfon have the right kinds of shops to bring in the shoppers?
(Date Posted:11/10/2009 15:17 PM)
I find myself agreeing with the visitor who has an opinion on our wardens. But more so the fact that he (or she) is another would be customer who has found it impossible to shop in our town. What shops we have a run by miserable English owners who have little time for the locals. That's my opinion for what its worth.
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Re:Does Caernarfon have the right kinds of shops to bring in the shoppers?
(Date Posted:11/11/2009 12:06 PM)
Dyma'r math o berson sydd yn rhoi enw drwg i Gymry .Mae'n amlwg nad yw yn gwybod dim am y dref gan fod y rhan fwyaf o fusnesau yn cael eu rhedeg gan Gymry a llawer o.r rheini yn bobl ifanc brwdfrydig a chymwynasgar.Mae 'r 2 gigydd yn lleol,y mwyafrif o'r tai bwyta,y siop lyfra,siop bloda,siopa gemwaith,y crydd,trin gwallt,ayyb.Dangos ei anwybodaeth mae,r person yma ac hefyd ei ragfarn.Mae'n drist o beth ond dim ond dangos ei hun i fyny mae o drwy rhyw baldaruan fel hyn.Ydi Mr Tesco yn Gymro 'ta Sais?
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Re:Does Caernarfon have the right kinds of shops to bring in the shoppers?
(Date Posted:11/11/2009 12:47 PM)
Ac heb henwu enwau mae nifer o siopau eraill yn y dre efo pobol "tu allan" o'r ardal heb syniad be mae'r Cofis eisiau.
Wnes i ddim son am Tesco's ond mae'n amlwg fydd nhw ddim yn cymeryd staff Cymreig (according to you). Siopau fel Tesco's yda ni angen twpysn!
Siopau - Siopio yda ni angen, edrychwch ar Bangor a Llandudno i'w chymharu.
For the record: Mae cig yn rhatach yn siopau fel Tesco. gemwaith yn lot rhatach ar y Teledu a llyfrau yn "ten a penny" dyddiau yma, pwy sy'n talu pris llawn am lyfr pan mae "deal's" yn pob man?
Efo ateb fel ti di rhoi, mae'n amlwg bod ti heb weld y niferoedd o siopau "ddi Gymraeg" sydd yn y dre. A hynnu yn y tref mwya Cymerig yn Nghymru. A NA! ydi rhan fwa o lle bwyta ddim yn Cymraeg, edrycha eto....
Mae'n drist pod ti rhy ddallt i weld choeden yn y coed. Sheeeesh!
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Re:Does Caernarfon have the right kinds of shops to bring in the shoppers?
(Date Posted:11/12/2009 10:00 AM)
Diolch am yr ateb blagardus ac anghywir mae'n rhoi argraff perffaith o'r awdur. Cyn rhedeg- ar bobl ddi Gymraeg fe ddylai'r "Cymro" honnedig yma wneud ymdrech i feistroli ei iaith ac yna dysgu bod yn gwrtais.
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RE:Does Caernarfon have the right kinds of shops to bring in the shoppers?
(Date Posted:11/12/2009 11:23 AM)
Ateb typical, oes na dim rhyfedd bod pobol yn stopio ysgrifenu yr iaith, pan mae rhwyn yn trio, mae nhw yn cael spwriael fel hun yn ol.
You started wrting Welsh on a predominantly English written board. That shows how ignorant you are. I merely answered you in the language you chose. I don't pretend to be an expert in Welsh, But I am a Cofi. Get a life.
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Re:Does Caernarfon have the right kinds of shops to bring in the shoppers?
(Date Posted:11/12/2009 11:31 AM)
Comment by Editor
To be honest you are both childish and whoever started this thread was asking for trouble, as it is obvious that one side would be against the other.
The lanugage issue comes into so many things here in Caernarfon and quite frankly I am not alone in thinking it spolis it for us all.
Language, be it Welsh (Cymraeg) or English (Saesneg) should not be an issue, but time and time again both sides make it one.
It is only a problem when the Welsh insist on the English learning the language and the English insist on not leraning it. This problem doesn't happen anywhere else. It stops businesses investing here and alienates our neighbours. Lets try to live in harmony without making things difficult for ourselves. Oh yes and stop bickering!
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(Date Posted:11/12/2009 16:21 PM)
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Comment by Editor
To be honest you are both childish and whoever started this thread was asking for trouble, as it is obvious that one side would be against the other.
The lanugage issue comes into so many things here in Caernarfon and quite frankly I am not alone in thinking it spolis it for us all.
Language, be it Welsh (Cymraeg) or English (Saesneg) should not be an issue, but time and time again both sides make it one.
It is only a problem when the Welsh insist on the English learning the language and the English insist on not leraning it. This problem doesn't happen anywhere else. It stops businesses investing here and alienates our neighbours. Lets try to live in harmony without making things difficult for ourselves. Oh yes and stop bickering! Hello me again I wrote the two pieces on Caernarfon shops and parking etc. Thank you editor for your message. I could understand the post's in Cymraeg, I came back to live here six years ago, all my family on my Dads side came from Caernarfon, and I care deeply about the town. Six years ago I started to learn Welsh again, and I speak it where and when I can, my friends in England and indeed all over the world get Bi-ling Christmas cards, as its sur how many people do not know Wales has its own language. But too many people I think use this lovely language as a weapon, yet for those who can not speak it I feel they are missing out on so much, while living in a country that holds the key to understanding why the lang is so important and unigue, but that is up to them. What you said above is so true, so many people have spent years here in business, providing a valued and much needed service to people, and jobs to local people, and still they get it in the neck, for not using enough Welsh. or making mistakes when they do. As a Welsh lean may I also say that ,with respect, there are a few Welsh speakers around that make you feel like a real idiot if you make a little mistake, instead of helping you. People who think like those above do, want to realise that if things carry on the way they are going in Caernarfon, you will have your language, but Caernarfon town will be in an even worse state than it is now.
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Re:Does Caernarfon have the right kinds of shops to bring in the shoppers?
(Date Posted:11/13/2009 14:59 PM)
Everyone seems to be missing the point here.What people dislike is abusive responses and unfortunately most of those come from people who seem to have little ability to express themselves in English or Welsh .This does make others think that they are rather unintelligent which in turn tends to detract from their contribution to any debate. I don't know what sort of people they are and I sincerely feel sorry for them as they are obviously very unhappy .I do think that someone who keeps saying how Welsh we are should not object to the odd Welsh contributo
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